THIS IS DIFFERENT...

Jan. 21, 2008

I rushed the court at the MCI Center twice during my undergraduate years at Georgetown.  The games themselves had little in common--one was a Saturday afternoon tilt in late February, the other a Big Monday context in late January.  The first game required a late spurt to finally put it away for good, while the second was effectively over at halftime.  One was said to have "clinched" Georgetown an NCAA Tournament berth; the other (unbeknownst at the time) featured two teams that would both miss the NCAA Tournament.

 

There was this one thing they had in common though...

 

...Syracuse University.

 

Those two words are why I can more easily recall February 24, 2001 and January 28, 2002 than my parents' anniversary.  That one school is why Demetrius Hunter, Lee Scruggs, and Kevin Braswell are folk heroes in my world and there are no greater villains than Preston Shumpert, Damone Brown, and Jim Boeheim. 

 

That one small detail tying together two entirely different games 13 months apart is why, on the occasion of 1/28/02, I vociferously defended the practice of rushing the court in late January to an ardently anti-rushing alumnus with one simple, concise argument:

 

This is different.  This is Syracuse.

 

Upon further reflection, he saw my point.

 

 

Over the past week, I've asked the members of the message board community at HoyaSaxa.com to vote for their favorite Georgetown-Syracuse games of all-time.  After a week of sorting through emails and messages from every generation imaginable, we've finally narrowed it down to the top ten (Surprise! We won all ten of the games!).  Aside from the clear-cut number one choice (which received almost three times as many points as number two), it was an extremely close ballot.


The following are the Top Ten Favorite Georgetown-Syracuse Games of All-Time, as voted by the members of the HoyaSaxa.com community and the Hoop Club Blog staff:

 

#10: January 28, 2002

Georgetown 75 Syracuse 60 (MCI Center)

 

The game that produced, for my money, the best student section cheer I have ever heard:

 

PRESTON'S CRYING!

 

#9: March 12, 1989

Georgetown 88 Syracuse 79 (Big East Tournament Final, Madison Square Garden)

 

Georgetown's third straight Big East Tournament Finals victory over the Orangemen.  Little did anyone in the Garden know at the time it would be 18 years until the Hoyas would lift the trophy at center court at MSG.

 

#8: February 25, 2006

Georgetown 68 Syracuse 53 (Verizon Center)

 

John Thompson III: "[Beating] Duke was nice, this one is nicer. To beat Syracuse when you're Georgetown is important."

 

#7: March 5, 1979

Georgetown 66 Syracuse 58 (ECAC South Finals, Cole Field House)

 

Junior Stars John "Ba-Ba" Duren and Craig "Big Sky" Shelton joined forces with frosh phenom Eric "Sleepy" Floyd to knock the "Louie (Orr) and (Roosevelt) Bowie Show" out of the running for the NCAAs.  We made the Cuse guards, Marty Head and Bernie Cohen, look very bad in a most satisfying victory.   (Michael Karam, F '72, L '76, L '81)

 

#6: March 8, 1987

Georgetown 69 Syracuse 59 (Big East Tournament Final, Madison Square Garden)

 

Reggie and the Miracles complete a three-game season sweep over Seikaly, Douglas, and Coleman, the eventual National Runners-Up.

 

#5: February 24, 2002

Georgetown 75 Syracuse 69 (Carrier Dome)

 

The dedication of Jim Boeheim Court goes about as well as the closing of Manley Field House.

 

#4: January 24, 1988

Georgetown 69 Syracuse 68 (Carrier Dome)

 

Charles Smith.  Coast. To. Coast.

 

#3: March 9, 2000

Georgetown 76 Syracuse 72 (Big East Tournament Quarterfinals, Madison Square Garden)

 

This was the first victory over Cuse I witnessed live, the first BET I attended, I won a 20-1 bet with my dad, Cuse was #12 and we were unranked, MSG was a madhouse, and I got to see a couple Cuse players cry while bando and I did a lap around the Garden drinking OJ and smoking stogies. Hard to top it in terms of personal experience.  (Doug Herrema, CAS '02)

 

#2: March 10, 1984

Georgetown 82 Syracuse 71 (OT) (Big East Tournament Final, Madison Square Garden)

 

Perhaps the most brutal, dramatic and satisfying game that I can ever recall.  Michael Graham gave a taste of things to come in the NCAA tournament by his performance in this game.  I believe that he tangled, among others, with Andre Hawkins, one of the all-time Cuse thugs.  Pearl Washington put on a show that only the Pearl could perform - - making Gene Smith (and any other Hoya who tried to defend him) look bad, very bad).  We were a bit lucky to get this one into overtime, but once we did, as with last year's UNC game, it was all Georgetown.  (Michael Karam, F '72, L '76, L '81)

 

#1: February 13, 1980

Georgetown 52 Syracuse 50 (Manley Field House)

 

Six words that defined a rivalry: Manley Field House is officially closed.

 

 

Will meeting #83 between the Hoyas and Orange become part of the Top Ten?  You never know, and that's what makes rivalries so intriguing.

 

Obviously you're going to want to watch this one.  If you can't make it to the Verizon Center, here is your game watching information:

 

TV: "Big Monday" on ESPN, 7:00pm

 

Radio: WTEM AM 980 at http://www.sportstalk980.com

 

Game Watch Parties: http://guhoyas.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/hoya-hoop-club-activities.html

 

 

Two Years Later: On January 21, 2006 the Hoyas defeated #1 ranked Duke 87-84 at the Verizon Center--which marked the fourth time I stormed the court at Georgetown's home arena.  I camped out in front of the F Street entrance beginning at 10:30pm on January 20, 2006 with an intrepid group of about 20 students from the student spirit group Hoya Blue.


On the occasion of the one-year anniversary of the game, I wrote an article for HoyaSaxa.com recounting my experiences that day.  You can read it here: http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/backpage/hawkes_12107.htm

 

We jokingly called ourselves "Team Moderate Temperature" because of the mild weather that night (a previous group of campers for the 2004 Duke game was nicknamed "Team Ice Cold").  As I type this, the temperature on my balcony across the river from Washington DC is 19 degrees.  To all the students getting an early jump on the line at the Verizon Center tomorrow--stay warm out there!

 

Let's make it a memorable one tomorrow--as if all Georgetown-Syracuse games aren't.

 

John Hawkes (SFS '04)

Proud Member of Generation Burton

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7:00 PM
Navy
Cooper Field
October 20
TBA
ITA Regionals
Lynchburg, Va.
October 21
L, 17-9
Fordham Family Weekend
Cooper Field
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Seton Hall
Shaw Field
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October 21
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Uconn
Storrs, Conn.
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October 21
L, 3-0
Villanova
Villanova, Pa.
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October 21
All Day
MAISA Womens Championships
Bronx, N.Y.
October 21
TBA
ITA Regionals
Lynchburg, Va.
October 21
All Day
Kings Point Dinghy Open
Kings Point, N.Y.
October 22
1:00 PM
Butler
Indianapolis, Ind.

BEDN
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October 22
9:30 AM
Richmond
Cooper Field
October 22
11:30 AM
Elon
Cooper Field
October 22
12:00 PM
Sacred Heart
Fairfield, Conn.

Live Stats
October 22
2:30 PM
Virginia Tech
Cooper Field
October 22
TBA
ITA Regionals
Lynchburg, Va.
October 22
All Day
MAISA Womens Championships
Bronx, N.Y.
October 22
All Day
Kings Point Dinghy Open
Kings Point, N.Y.
October 22
All Day
Head of the Charles HW/LW
Boston, Mass.

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October 22
All Day
The ODU/OBX Intercollegiate Old Dominion
Kilmarlic Golf Club - Powells Point, N.C.
October 22
All Day
Head of the Charles
Boston, Mass.

Results
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October 23
All Day
The ODU/OBX Intercollegiate Old Dominion
Kilmarlic Golf Club - Powells Point, N.C.
October 24
All Day
The ODU/OBX Intercollegiate Old Dominion
Kilmarlic Golf Club - Powells Point, N.C.
October 25
2:00 PM
Providence
Shaw Field

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October 26
2:00 PM
Xavier
Shaw Field

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October 27
2:00 PM
Villanova
Cooper Field
October 27
7:00 PM
Xavier
Cincinnati, Ohio
October 28
1:00 PM
Holy Cross
Worcester, Mass.
October 28
7:00 PM
St. Johns
Queens, N.Y.

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October 28
11:00 AM
James Madison
Cooper Field
October 28
12:00 PM
Davidson
Davidson, N.C.
October 28
1:00 PM
Maryland
Cooper Field
October 28
3:00 PM
Stony Brook
Cooper Field
October 28
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Head of the Schuylkill LW only
Philadelphia, Pa.
October 28
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Kenosha, Wis.
October 28
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Kenosha, Wis.
October 28
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War Memorial Regatta
Geneva, N.Y.
October 29
1:00 PM
La Salle
Cooper Field
October 29
2:00 PM
Butler
Indianapolis, Ind.
October 29
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War Memorial Regatta
Geneva, N.Y.
October 29
All Day
Princeton Chase
Princeton, N.J.
October 29
All Day
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Princeton, N.J.
October 30
All Day
USF Intercollegiate
TPC Tampa, Tampa, Fla.
October 31
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TPC Tampa, Tampa, Fla.
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2:00 PM
Creighton
Shaw Field

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November 3
4:00 PM
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November 3
6:00 PM
St. Johns
McDonough Arena
November 3
TBA
Jack Kramer Invitational
Palos Verdes, Calif.
November 3
TBA
Jack Kramer Invitational
Palos Verdes, Calif.
November 3
All Day
ICSA Mens and Womens Singlehanded National Championships
Tampa, Fla.
November 4
2:00 PM
Lafayette Homecoming
Cooper Field
November 4
10:00 AM
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New Brunswick, N.J.
November 4
6:00 PM
Seton Hall
McDonough Arena
November 4
TBA
Jack Kramer Invitational
Palos Verdes, Calif.
November 4
All Day
ICSA Mens and Womens Singlehanded National Championships
Tampa, Fla.
November 4
All Day
Head of the Occoquan HW/LW
Fairfax Station, Va.
November 4
TBA
Jack Kramer Invitational
Palos Verdes, Calif.
November 4
All Day
Head of the Occoquan
Fairfax Station, Va.
November 5
All Day
ICSA Mens and Womens Singlehanded National Championships
Tampa, Fla.
November 5
TBA
Jack Kramer Invitational
Palos Verdes, Calif.
November 5
TBA
Jack Kramer Invitational
Palos Verdes, Calif.
November 10
6:00 PM
Marquette
Milwuakee, Wis.
November 10
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NCAA Mid-Atlantic Region Championships
Bethlehem, Pa.
November 10
All Day
NCAA Mid-Atlantic Region Championships
Bethlehem, Pa.
November 11
12:00 PM
Bucknell
Lewisburg, Pa.
November 11
All Day
Coed Atlantic Coast Championships
Bronx, N.Y.
November 11
All Day
ICSA Match Racing National Championships
Charleston, S.C.
November 11
All Day
Womens Atlantic Coast Championships
New London, Conn.
November 12
12:00 PM
Jacksonville
Capital One Arena

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November 12
2:00 PM
DePaul
Chicago, Ill.
November 12
All Day
ICSA Match Racing National Championships
Charleston, S.C.
November 12
All Day
Coed Atlantic Coast Championships
Bronx, N.Y.
November 12
All Day
Womens Atlantic Coast Championships
New London, Conn.
November 14
7:00 PM
Howard
McDonough Arena
November 15
7:00 PM
Mount St. Marys
Capital One Arena

FS2
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November 16
7:00 PM
Loyola Maryland
Baltimore, Md.
November 17
10:00 AM
Bucknell Invite
Lewisburg, Pa.
November 17
6:00 PM
Providence
McDonough Arena

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November 18
1:00 PM
Colgate Senior Day
Cooper Field
November 18
12:00 PM
UMES
Capital One Arena

FSN
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November 18
10:00 AM
Bucknell Invite
Lewisburg, Pa.
November 18
6:00 PM
Creighton
McDonough Arena
November 18
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IC4A Championships
New York, N.Y.
November 18
All Day
NCAA Championships
Louisville, Ky.
November 18
All Day
NCAA Championships
Louisville, Ky.
November 18
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ECAC Championships
New York, N.Y.
November 19
2:00 PM
George Washington
Washington, D.C.
November 19
10:00 AM
Bucknell Invite
Lewisburg, Pa.
November 24
8:30 PM
Auburn
Nashville, Tenn.
November 25
6:00 PM
Richmond
Richmond, Va.

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November 25
8:30 PM
Chattanooga
Nashville, Tenn.
November 26
3:00 PM
Northwestern
Nashville, Tenn.
November 28
8:30 PM
Maine
Capital One Arena

FS1/FS2
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November 29
7:00 PM
Florida International
McDonough Arena
December 3
6:30 PM
Coppin State
Capital One Arena

FS1
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December 7
8:30 PM
Howard
Capital One Arena

FS1
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December 7
7:00 PM
Minnesota
McDonough Arena
December 9
2:30 PM
North Carolina A&T
Capital One Arena

FS2
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December 10
2:00 PM
North Carolina State
Raleigh, N.C.
December 16
12:30 PM
Syracuse
Capital One Arena

CBS
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December 20
7:00 PM
North Texas
Capital One Arena

FS2
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December 21
6:00 PM
VCU
Richmond, Va.
December 23
12:00 PM
Alabama A&M
Capital One Arena

FS1
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December 27
6:30 PM
Butler
Capital One Arena

FS1
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December 28
7:00 PM
Providence
Providence, R.I.

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December 30
4:30 PM
Marquette
Milwaukee, Wis.

FS1
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December 30
2:00 PM
Creighton
Omaha, Neb.

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January 2
9:00 PM
DePaul
Chicago, Ill.

FS1
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January 2
2:00 PM
Xavier
McDonough Arena

BEDN
January 5
7:00 PM
Butler
McDonough Arena

BEDN
January 6
12:00 PM
Creighton
Capital One Arena

FSN
TBD
January 6
All Day
Rose Bowl Regatta
Los Angeles, Calif.
January 7
All Day
Rose Bowl Regatta
Los Angeles, Calif.
January 9
6:30 PM
St. Johns
New York, N.Y.

FS1
TBD
January 10
7:00 PM
Villanova
McDonough Arena

BEDN
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January 12
7:00 PM
St. Johns
Queens, N.Y.

BEDN
January 13
12:00 PM
Seton Hall
Newark, N.J.

FS1
TBD
January 13
1:00 PM
American/George Washington
Washington, D.C. (American University)
January 14
1:00 PM
Seton Hall
South Orange, N.J.

BEDN
January 17
6:30 PM
Villanova
Capital One Arena

FS1
TBD
January 19
7:00 PM
Marquette
McDonough Arena

BEDN
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