THIS IS DIFFERENT...

Jan. 21, 2008

I rushed the court at the MCI Center twice during my undergraduate years at Georgetown.  The games themselves had little in common--one was a Saturday afternoon tilt in late February, the other a Big Monday context in late January.  The first game required a late spurt to finally put it away for good, while the second was effectively over at halftime.  One was said to have "clinched" Georgetown an NCAA Tournament berth; the other (unbeknownst at the time) featured two teams that would both miss the NCAA Tournament.

 

There was this one thing they had in common though...

 

...Syracuse University.

 

Those two words are why I can more easily recall February 24, 2001 and January 28, 2002 than my parents' anniversary.  That one school is why Demetrius Hunter, Lee Scruggs, and Kevin Braswell are folk heroes in my world and there are no greater villains than Preston Shumpert, Damone Brown, and Jim Boeheim. 

 

That one small detail tying together two entirely different games 13 months apart is why, on the occasion of 1/28/02, I vociferously defended the practice of rushing the court in late January to an ardently anti-rushing alumnus with one simple, concise argument:

 

This is different.  This is Syracuse.

 

Upon further reflection, he saw my point.

 

 

Over the past week, I've asked the members of the message board community at HoyaSaxa.com to vote for their favorite Georgetown-Syracuse games of all-time.  After a week of sorting through emails and messages from every generation imaginable, we've finally narrowed it down to the top ten (Surprise! We won all ten of the games!).  Aside from the clear-cut number one choice (which received almost three times as many points as number two), it was an extremely close ballot.


The following are the Top Ten Favorite Georgetown-Syracuse Games of All-Time, as voted by the members of the HoyaSaxa.com community and the Hoop Club Blog staff:

 

#10: January 28, 2002

Georgetown 75 Syracuse 60 (MCI Center)

 

The game that produced, for my money, the best student section cheer I have ever heard:

 

PRESTON'S CRYING!

 

#9: March 12, 1989

Georgetown 88 Syracuse 79 (Big East Tournament Final, Madison Square Garden)

 

Georgetown's third straight Big East Tournament Finals victory over the Orangemen.  Little did anyone in the Garden know at the time it would be 18 years until the Hoyas would lift the trophy at center court at MSG.

 

#8: February 25, 2006

Georgetown 68 Syracuse 53 (Verizon Center)

 

John Thompson III: "[Beating] Duke was nice, this one is nicer. To beat Syracuse when you're Georgetown is important."

 

#7: March 5, 1979

Georgetown 66 Syracuse 58 (ECAC South Finals, Cole Field House)

 

Junior Stars John "Ba-Ba" Duren and Craig "Big Sky" Shelton joined forces with frosh phenom Eric "Sleepy" Floyd to knock the "Louie (Orr) and (Roosevelt) Bowie Show" out of the running for the NCAAs.  We made the Cuse guards, Marty Head and Bernie Cohen, look very bad in a most satisfying victory.   (Michael Karam, F '72, L '76, L '81)

 

#6: March 8, 1987

Georgetown 69 Syracuse 59 (Big East Tournament Final, Madison Square Garden)

 

Reggie and the Miracles complete a three-game season sweep over Seikaly, Douglas, and Coleman, the eventual National Runners-Up.

 

#5: February 24, 2002

Georgetown 75 Syracuse 69 (Carrier Dome)

 

The dedication of Jim Boeheim Court goes about as well as the closing of Manley Field House.

 

#4: January 24, 1988

Georgetown 69 Syracuse 68 (Carrier Dome)

 

Charles Smith.  Coast. To. Coast.

 

#3: March 9, 2000

Georgetown 76 Syracuse 72 (Big East Tournament Quarterfinals, Madison Square Garden)

 

This was the first victory over Cuse I witnessed live, the first BET I attended, I won a 20-1 bet with my dad, Cuse was #12 and we were unranked, MSG was a madhouse, and I got to see a couple Cuse players cry while bando and I did a lap around the Garden drinking OJ and smoking stogies. Hard to top it in terms of personal experience.  (Doug Herrema, CAS '02)

 

#2: March 10, 1984

Georgetown 82 Syracuse 71 (OT) (Big East Tournament Final, Madison Square Garden)

 

Perhaps the most brutal, dramatic and satisfying game that I can ever recall.  Michael Graham gave a taste of things to come in the NCAA tournament by his performance in this game.  I believe that he tangled, among others, with Andre Hawkins, one of the all-time Cuse thugs.  Pearl Washington put on a show that only the Pearl could perform - - making Gene Smith (and any other Hoya who tried to defend him) look bad, very bad).  We were a bit lucky to get this one into overtime, but once we did, as with last year's UNC game, it was all Georgetown.  (Michael Karam, F '72, L '76, L '81)

 

#1: February 13, 1980

Georgetown 52 Syracuse 50 (Manley Field House)

 

Six words that defined a rivalry: Manley Field House is officially closed.

 

 

Will meeting #83 between the Hoyas and Orange become part of the Top Ten?  You never know, and that's what makes rivalries so intriguing.

 

Obviously you're going to want to watch this one.  If you can't make it to the Verizon Center, here is your game watching information:

 

TV: "Big Monday" on ESPN, 7:00pm

 

Radio: WTEM AM 980 at http://www.sportstalk980.com

 

Game Watch Parties: http://guhoyas.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/hoya-hoop-club-activities.html

 

 

Two Years Later: On January 21, 2006 the Hoyas defeated #1 ranked Duke 87-84 at the Verizon Center--which marked the fourth time I stormed the court at Georgetown's home arena.  I camped out in front of the F Street entrance beginning at 10:30pm on January 20, 2006 with an intrepid group of about 20 students from the student spirit group Hoya Blue.


On the occasion of the one-year anniversary of the game, I wrote an article for HoyaSaxa.com recounting my experiences that day.  You can read it here: http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/backpage/hawkes_12107.htm

 

We jokingly called ourselves "Team Moderate Temperature" because of the mild weather that night (a previous group of campers for the 2004 Duke game was nicknamed "Team Ice Cold").  As I type this, the temperature on my balcony across the river from Washington DC is 19 degrees.  To all the students getting an early jump on the line at the Verizon Center tomorrow--stay warm out there!

 

Let's make it a memorable one tomorrow--as if all Georgetown-Syracuse games aren't.

 

John Hawkes (SFS '04)

Proud Member of Generation Burton

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11:30 AM
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5:30 PM
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1:00 PM
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2:30 PM
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Port Charlotte, Fla.
March 9
2:00 PM
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March 10
2:00 PM
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March 11
12:00 PM
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1:00 PM
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March 11
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Port Charlotte, Fla.
March 12
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Phoenix, Az.
March 15
3:00 PM
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March 15
11:00 AM
Rider
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March 15
2:00 PM
Rider
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March 16
11:00 AM
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March 17
6:00 PM
Gardner-Webb
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March 17
10:00 AM
St. Bonaventure
Wilmington, N.C.
March 17
5:30 PM
UMass-Lowell
Wilmington, N.C.
March 17
11:00 AM
Xavier
Washington, D.C.
March 18
2:00 PM
Gardner-Webb
Boiling Springs, N.C.
March 18
10:00 AM
UNC-Wilmington
Wilmington, N.C.
March 18
3:00 PM
St. Bonaventure
Wilmington, N.C.
March 18
12:00 PM
Duke
Cooper Field
March 18
1:00 PM
Butler
Indianapolis, Ind.
March 19
1:00 PM
Gardner-Webb
Boiling Springs, N.C.
March 19
10:00 AM
UMass-Lowell
Wilmington, N.C.
March 19
2:00 PM
Hofstra
Washington, D.C.
March 19
11:00 PM
Hofstra
Washington, D.C.
March 21
11:00 AM
Williams College
Washington, D.C.
March 22
3:00 PM
Coppin State
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March 22
3:00 PM
Loyola Maryland
Baltimore, Md.
March 22
7:00 PM
Loyola Maryland
Baltimore, Md.
March 24
10:00 AM
St. Johns
Flushing, N.Y.
March 24
12:00 PM
St. Johns
Flushing, N.Y.
March 24
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March 25
1:00 PM
Brown
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4:00 PM
Brown
Providence, R.I.
March 25
12:00 PM
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March 25
3:00 PM
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Guy Mason Field
March 25
11:00 AM
Marist
Poughkipsee, N.Y.
March 25
12:00 PM
Marquette
Cooper Field
March 25
1:00 PM
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Storrs, Conn.
March 25
All Day
Slomin Autism Invitational
PGA National Resort - West Palm Beach, Fla.
March 25
All Day
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Princeton, N.J.
March 25
All Day
Delaware
Princeton, N.J.
March 26
12:00 PM
Brown
Providence, R.I.
March 26
11:00 AM
Creighton
Guy Mason Field
March 26
12:00 PM
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Washington, D.C.
March 26
All Day
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Princeton, N.J.
March 26
All Day
Slomin Autism Invitational
PGA National Resort - West Palm Beach, Fla.
March 29
3:00 PM
Navy
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March 30
6:00 PM
Towson
Towson, Md.
March 30
All Day
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Greensboro, Nc.
March 31
3:00 PM
George Mason
Shirley Povich Field
March 31
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Greensboro, Nc.
April 1
2:00 PM
George Mason
Fairfax, Va.
April 1
12:00 PM
Providence
Guy Mason Field
April 1
3:00 PM
Providence
Guy Mason Field
April 1
1:00 PM
Temple
Cooper Field
April 1
3:00 PM
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Denver, Colo.
April 1
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Greensboro, Nc.
April 1
All Day
Temple & St. Josephs
Philadelphia, Pa.
April 2
1:00 PM
George Mason
Fairfax, Va.
April 2
12:00 PM
Providence
Guy Mason Field
April 2
10:00 AM
Navy
Washington, D.C.
April 2
TBA
The Citadel
Washington, D.C.
April 2
All Day
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Greensboro, Nc.
April 3
All Day
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April 4
3:00 PM
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April 4
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April 5
2:30 PM
Towson
Towson, Md.
April 5
7:00 PM
Villanova
Villanova, Pa.
April 7
3:00 PM
NYIT
Shirley Povich Field
April 7
1:00 PM
Temple
Philadelphia, Pa.
April 7
All Day
GW Invite
Washington, D.C.
April 8
1:00 PM
NYIT
Shirley Povich Field
April 8
12:00 PM
Seton Hall
South Orange, N.J.
April 8
3:00 PM
Seton Hall
South Orange, N.J.
April 8
12:00 PM
DePaul
Washington, D.C.
April 8
1:00 PM
Vanderbilt
Cooper Field
April 8
1:00 PM
Providence
Providence, R.I.
April 8
All Day
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Springdale Golf Club - Princeton, N.J.
April 8
All Day
Yale & MIT
Derby, Conn.
April 8
All Day
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Washington, D.C.
April 8
All Day
Columbia & Harvard
Overpeck Park, N.J.
April 9
12:00 PM
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Shirley Povich Field
April 9
12:00 PM
Seton Hall
South Orange, N.J
April 9
All Day
Princeton Invitational
Springdale Golf Club - Princeton, N.J.
April 9
All Day
Hoya Invitational
Four Streams, Beallsville, Md.
April 10
All Day
Hoya Invitational
Four Streams, Beallsville, Md.
April 12
4:00 PM
Mount St. Marys
Emmitsburg, Md.
April 12
2:00 PM
Cincinnati
Cooper Field
April 13
3:00 PM
Creighton
Shirley Povich Field
April 14
4:00 PM
Creighton
Shirley Povich Field
April 14
1:00 PM
Villanova
Guy Mason Field
April 14
4:00 PM
Villanova
Guy Mason Field
April 15
1:00 PM
Creighton
Shirley Povich Field
April 15
1:00 PM
Villanova
Guy Mason Field
April 15
2:00 PM
Marquette
Milwaukee, Wis.
April 15
2:30 PM
Villanova
Cooper Field
April 15
All Day
Holy Cross
Princeton, N.J.
April 15
All Day
Navy
Washington, D.C.
April 15
All Day
The Rutherford Collegiate
Penn State Blue Course - State College, Pa.
April 16
All Day
The Rutherford Collegiate
Penn State Blue Course - State College, Pa.
April 16
All Day
The Rutherford Collegiate
Penn State Blue Course - State College, Pa.
April 18
3:30 PM
Mount St. Marys
Emmitsburg, Md.
April 18
6:00 PM
Virginia
Charlottesville, Va.
April 18
7:00 PM
Mount St. Marys
Emmitsburg, Md.